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- Wednesday, July 01, 2009
#7709
- Guru, thank you for your insight. Is such a complicated formula needed to create a cover guide? Or is there a simpler equation to calculate this? I’d like to create a spread sheet in Excl to use as a guide when planning.
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The Media Guru Answers(Thursday, July 02, 2009
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In the olden days (1960's - 70's) we made up tables of actual calculated reach and frequency results from measured schedules that Nielsen reported. The table might have rows of GRP levels and columns reflecting schedule dispersion, i.e. number of announcements per program or network used. Or, if you have this much information, you can develop a crude "curve" formula.
But you must start with some actual reach and frequency results to build the table or curve. If the formula was as simple as A * B ÷ C3, the Guru would have told you in the first place. There are simply too many variables make it simple.
Different ratings sizes; duplication between one announcement and another; duplication between one station or network and another, different cume patterns of different demographic groups, different ways these all behave in different dayparts, in cable versus broadcast, etc. Our own eTelmar is one reasonably priced solution.
- Wednesday, July 01, 2009
#7708
- Guru, Can you help me with the formula to predict reach for television. i.e. What figures/stats are used within the formula and what is that formula? Your guidance is much appreciated!
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The Media Guru Answers(Wednesday, July 01, 2009
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Ratings / grps are the usual input. Duplication data, at least in the form of "curve" formulas is also needed. You need a computer with software such as that offered by Telmar. The calculation is extremely complex. For example, in print, as input, you need average issue audience, duplication between issues of the same publication and duplication between each possible pair of different publications. These must be combined using a complex formula such as the Beta-binomial function.
There are variants of this formula, which might be preferred, depending on media type and other variables
- Tuesday, June 30, 2009
#7707
- Dear MG!
I've read some information about Apollo project(Nielsen and Arbitron) findings - that messages gained effectiveness for up to eight repetitions per four week period. But Jones and Ephron findings told us that one contact is effective and enough. Can you told me where is the truth? Is there any standart for media planners ? Thank you a lot!!!
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The Media Guru Answers(Tuesday, June 30, 2009
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Project Apollo was abandoned over a year ago,
whether that had anything to do with its findings or not.
The Guru sees no conflict between "one contact is effective and enough" (especially if it's the last one just before purchase, and the idea that effectiveness is gained with repetition. Enough may be enough, while more is better. "Enough" may meet sales goals and more might double them.
- Thursday, June 25, 2009
#7706
- Is there an ideal DRTV schedule? ie number of spots per station/daypart? Also, what are the standard metrics for evaluating repsponse to Direct Reponse TV Schedules?
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The Media Guru Answers(Friday, June 26, 2009
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No single ideal.
If you don't have the experience to buy narrowly, order as many spots as you can, knowing many won't run. Spread your schedule as broadly as possible to find out what works best. Track orders against ads immediately to be ready to adjust schedules. Brand buying logic may drive you to prime, but that's expensiven and may not show a good ROI. Cosmetic products may do best in daytime soap opera hours, insomnia or anti depressant ads may do best in overnights.
Experiment and learn and prepare to be flexible.
- Thursday, June 25, 2009
#7705
- Dear Media Guru,
I would greatly appreciate your assistence with the following. Normally we buy tv according to GRPs. However in some countries tv stations do not sell on a GRP basis and we have to buy minutes but we plan on GRPs with the agencies. Now each agency pitches with a completely different number of GRPs for the same tv channel mix and time period, % Primetime and PIB. Is the correct way to calculate GRPs in this case to take the average GRP level of the same time a year before or in the case of fluctuations the average GRP level of the last 6 to 9 months and apply this to the minute rates to get CPPs. We have proposals which differ vastly from each other and we dpn't know who to believe. Or should we go to the telemetric institute of the country and get the average data over time from them to check the offers ourselves?
Many thanks for your help as I am tearing my hear out here
Elecgrl
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The Media Guru Answers(Thursday, June 25, 2009
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Frankly, your question is unclear to the Guru. If the Guru understands the question:
- Various vendors are estimating different GRP levels for the same schedules
- You have a variety of ways to estimate GRP yourself
- Or you can buy reliable estimates
You simply need to choose one approach, apply it to all vendor offers equally, and proceed to make your buys.
- Wednesday, June 24, 2009
#7704
- Hi Guru,
I have a question about post buying. I work out of a 4 sweep market. For posts, I'm assuming that I'd use FEB for buys placed in Jan, Feb, & Mar, MAY for April, May, June, JULY for July, Aug, Sept, and NOV for Oct, Nov and Dec.
What happens if I do a buy for Sept, and place it in mid August. By then, the new July 09 book would be out. So if I use the new July 09 book for planning, then what would I post Sept's buy with?
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The Media Guru Answers(Wednesday, June 24, 2009
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If your policy is to post Sept on the July book, why does the situation you describe change it? Posting is only affected by when the buy runs, not the date of order. You should post well this time.
- Friday, June 19, 2009
#7703
- Guru, I have a client who is insistent on using pennysavers to alert area residents of a new train service to a major league stadium. I had suggested major daily newspapers covering the region given that it's paid, provides sports coverage, etc. But they are opting for free weekly pennysavers. I'm certain I can obtain some demo info from the publisher but there is no way to understand reader interest. How would I go about perhaps statistically in show major dailies do a far better job of reaching the right audience over these cluttered shoppers?
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The Media Guru Answers(Saturday, June 20, 2009
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The Guru believes you have one of the of the key points: sports coverage. Environmental support in your media choices is an important driver of message impact. In thias case, it probably outweighs statistics. But try the The Newspaper National Network for research.
- Tuesday, June 09, 2009
#7702
- Good morning MG. We recently ran a campaign on Facebook with 3.3 million impressions and 1,127 clicks.
The question now being asked is "what's considered effective regarding impressions/clicks?" The campaign ran February - June, I know this is a loaded question but I am hoping you can give me your thoughts.
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The Media Guru Answers(Thursday, June 11, 2009
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The old standard average was 0.2% click through. In reality, if you met your goals you were effective.
- Tuesday, June 09, 2009
#7701
- May I ask "What is and how to I access a PAL INDEX"?
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The Media Guru Answers(Thursday, June 11, 2009
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The Guru believes you may be referring to a proprietary media software tool of IMS Media Solutions. They would be the ones to ask.
- Monday, June 08, 2009
#7700
- Media Guru thanks so much for your explanation on my ques #7699. Is there a different factor or formula I should be using to tally the cume of my reach over a 12 month online campaign that uses the same websites from month to month?
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The Media Guru Answers(Thursday, June 11, 2009
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- Thursday, June 04, 2009
#7699
- We have been using the following formula to add reach from month to month for our online campaigns: (R1+R2)-(R1*(R2/100))*.96. After some research on your site, the initial part of the formula seems to be the formula for random probability but I'm not sure where the multiplying it by .96 came from. Any thoughts? Could that be another estimate on duplication?
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The Media Guru Answers(Saturday, June 06, 2009
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Applying a factor like "0.96" is an old technique to adjust random duplication (which, as you say, is the first part of your formula) for the fact that duplication in some cases is somewhat greater than simply random.
Between different media, such as print and tv, it is thought to be truly random, that is, there is no greater likelihood that a newspaper reader of your campaign will see your tv campaign, than any other two random events. However, between two elements of the same medium, like two TV dayparts, there is a more than simply random chance of duplication.
That is the traditional case for using a factor like 0.96.
Between consecutive time periods of the same medium, as in your case, the Guru expectss a much greater chance of duplication. You are looking at new exposures of the same vehicle, which should be represented as accumulating along one sharply flattening asymptotic curve (see below). It's a "cume," not a "combination." Random combination is far too optimistic. Unduplicated users from the first few months to the next added would probably become virtually total unless each month used unique, unrelated sites.
- Wednesday, June 03, 2009
#7698
- How can I determine how much money I should spend in banner advertising in a given market without over-delivering? I know it's a very general question, but there aren't many tools available to small agencies that are inexpensive. It's easier with TV, as there are general TRP/Reach/Frequency benchmarks, but with online it's much more difficult. If you can provide any general guidelines that would be great!
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The Media Guru Answers(Wednesday, June 03, 2009
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You seem to be mixing questions of metrics and benchmarks.
Are you asking how much to do or how to tell if you've done it? How much to do is a matter of what needs to be accomplished. Are you looking for direct sales or driving traffic to a site? In any case web results are instantly trackable so you must stay on top of results. If you have an amount you want to run, you should be buying on a cost per thousand impressions or cost per click basis. The you get what you pay for and it's up to the sites to document delivery.
- Monday, June 01, 2009
#7697
- Hello MG,
This question may be a bit off-point, but in the wake of all the budget cuts due to the economy, many clients are reducing media services (ie, removing OOH planning, placing their own print, etc.) However, one of the things that surprised me was that one client removed "posting" for both TV and Radio as part of our responsibilities. Their reasoning was that if the rates and points were negotiated, then the station could take of post buys.
Other than the fact that no one would be checking on the station's post, I cannot find anything wrong with this model.
Is there anything that you can think of that would make this a poor business practice?
Thanks!
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The Media Guru Answers(Tuesday, June 02, 2009
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It's very trusting
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